Hi. Glad you're here!
Catfish
hi everybody sorry i just got so excited to be able to vent that i just jumped right on in replying and blabbing that i forgot to say hey!
thanks for this site and all of you.
Hi. Glad you're here!
Catfish
i just read scully's thread about returning money from the atm.
it reminded me of how common it is for hohos to do a kindness, or to return found items, then explain that 'the reason i'm so honest is that i'm a jw and we're honest people, blah blah'.
this was always disturbing to me, as though we had to draw attention to the fantasy that we were different from others and it felt like we had lost our humanity--i now realize how true that is.
I just read Scully's thread about returning money from the ATM. It reminded me of how common it is for Hohos to do a kindness, or to return found items, then explain that 'the reason I'm so honest is that I'm a JW and we're honest people, blah blah'. This was always disturbing to me, as though we had to draw attention to the fantasy that we were different from others and it felt like we had lost our humanity--I now realize how true that is. Surprisingly, once a DO said at an assembly, that when we do these right things, we should not announce to the recipient that it's because we're Hohos, we're doing them because it's just right to do a kind or truthful act to another person.
"Worldly" people had been doing 'the right thing' all along!! When I have had situations like this, it makes me feel good about myself, not about the collective.
i am not df'd and have not da'd, just faded the last six years - anyway i was remembering a time when i was about 18 or 19 and a very good friend that i had grown up with was df'd for fornication - well she was finally coming back to the hall to get reinstated and i hadn't seen or spoken to her for more than a year - so when she showed up at the hall one night i told my mom i was going to say hi!
remember, she was still df'd - my mom said i shouldn't and i told her i don't care - i had missed my friend and wanted to just say hi!
i said to my friend - "i just wanted to say that i missed you and happy to see you back!
I gave a secret hello and a smile several times to a gal with 4 little kids who was DF'd from her first meeting at our KH. When she was reinstated, she came up and thanked me! for being kind to her, said it kept it from leaving when she would feel awful and alone there.
a hoho might say: you have a bad attitude, i can't associate w/ you.
a real person might say: you're having a bad day, can i help?.
a hoho might say: i'm a pioneer.
A Hoho might say: You have a bad attitude, I can't associate w/ you. A real person might say: You're having a bad day, can I help?
A Hoho might say: I'm a pioneer. A real person might say: I'm underemployed and am wasting valuable time and resources.
A Hoho might say: You didn't comment at the WT study today! A real person might say: I'm glad you're here today!
A Hoho might say: New System A real person might say: Candyland
A Hoho might say: Worldlings A real person might say: People, Humans
A Hoho might say: Associates A real person might say: Friends
A Hoho might say: Pagan Festival A real person might say: Christmas, a time for family, fun and creating memories
Any others?
at the meetings, i didn't make many comments so i'll call myself:.
brother mute.
give yourself a jw nickname.
I read all 56 and they're all FAB! Call me, Sister Wants-To-Egg-The-New-KH-on-Parker-Road-but-Probably-Won't.
(I once broke a heel at an assembly and called myself 'Stands With a List')
nonamegiven's thread on the walk of shame (walking thru the hall while df'd) reminded me of my own experience while disfellowshipped and still a believer.
i kept a diary from that time, serving as a safe place to vent off the anger and frustration of being df'd.. here is a little chunk of one entry.
to set it up, "greg" was the chairman of the committee that df'd me.
Great points! Remember in Corinthians somewhere Paul spoke of fornication that a certain man had w/ his father's wife or something, a thing that not even the nations would do or approve, he said to remove the fella, then several chapters later, or even in book 2, he spoke of reinstating him so that the Df'd man wouldn't be overly sad, it seems that it was Paul's idea to reinstate. I had often read that years ago, and wondered, Where was this poor man's letter of begging for reinstatement? Where was the callousness of Paul that I had seen friends and family endure in this same situation?
Plus, how long between the DF and the reinstatement in this case, I don't own a Bible anymore, perhaps soomeone else could check please?
curious as to what exwitnesses have become or believe.
i haven't joined any religous group and do not attend any services.
(have visited a church's service)
I am. . .
still angry.
we had a major talk about jws today.
i couldn't use the un or pedophiles, as this is 'outside' information, and she would never belive me.
then she would question my source, and i'd be killed by elder firing squad.
I'm loving the a new JWs and the use of blood routine, dig this:
They can now take in a dozen plus fractions derived from blood, which calls for the Jedi Logic derived from another poster a month or so back: I can't eat a whole pizza, but if you slice it up into fractions I'm in. . .
So the question is, Dear Mom and Dad, Can I donate blood now? and if not, can I just donate some fractions? It would help so many people, and we know how Hohos like to help people. . .
for those of you that don't know my story, read my first post here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/122526/1.ashx
so, i think next week is when i find out if i am approved to be an ms. if not, thank god, but if i am, i'm in deep crap.
elder dad is confident that i'll accept, but my plan is to try to get out of it by saying that i want to finish school and get an aa degree, at least, before accepting more responsibilities.
If you ever had any doubts about your doubts about the religion, this situation will solidify your concerns. Meaning: When you decline in advance, your dad and others who love you will tell you and try to make you believe that you have a spiritual problem, that you must be deficient in some way, that you don't appreciate spiritual things, or worse, that you're trying to take away their joy of seeing you appointed. And we're here to tell you that it's just not true. Even if you decide to remain and have a long happy existence as a Hoho, according to the Bible you can still be a friend of God without having a title.
Kudos on aiming for your degree!!
here is another lame a$$ email from a dub (how is it the only use they can think of for the internet is to regurgitate these lame parable's.).
warning have your barf bags ready.. .
this is very thought provoking.
A live dog is better than a stupid sheep.